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Ebon Benevolent Dictator For Life

Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 2364
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Italy is now officially persecuting Roma |
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From the Guardian (link to full stories below). The relevant points (all emphasis mine):
"Italy's highest appeal court ruled that it was acceptable to discriminate against Roma on the grounds that "all Gypsies were thieves"
So now, it's official. We're worth less than a white man. It's acceptable to discriminate against us, deny us work and homes, take our children, drive us off. It's ok to hate us, we're just gypsies.
" In May, rumours of an abduction of a baby girl by a Gypsy woman in Naples triggered an orgy of racist violence against Roma camps by thugs wielding iron bars, who torched caravans and drove Gypsies from their slum homes in dozens of assaults, orchestrated by the local mafia, the Camorra. The response of Berlusconi's government to the firebombing and ethnic cleansing? "That is what happens when Gypsies steal babies," shrugged Maroni; while fellow minister and Northern League leader Umberto Bossi declared: "The people do what the political class isn't able to do.""
I hope that I don't need to explain to you guys that we don't steal babies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/10/race.humanrights
And finally, there's this. Tourists happily enjoying the beach while the dead bodies of two Roma girls (who I'm fairly sure were murdered) lie just feet away. Why can I be fairly sure they were murdered? Because our hygene and modesty laws forbid exposing one's lower body to strangers. That's why you always see Roma women in long skirts or trousers and why you will never see a Roma man in shorts. To us, it would be like taking a piss on the open street, it's just not done. Hopefully, when the other two girls recover (they survived), they can shed some light on the matter. Not that I believe the Italian authorities will do anything but if the girls were attacked, the clan will deal with it:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jul/21/italy.race
I'm actually crying here. If you ever wondered why Roma don't want to be part of the system, why we tend to distrust gadje, it's because of shit like this. You scare the piss out of us because we can never be sure when the gadje are going to turn on us again. We're not cowards (never, ever call a Roma a coward unless you want to fight), we endure but you scare us because so often, you want us to be enemies.
Roma have often been compared to rats. It's never Roma who do this because to us, that's a compliment, there is much to admire about rats. Rats are quick and subtle, they are highly intelligent, usually unseen and above all else, they survive, we survive. _________________ 5150: I'm crazy, what's your excuse?
If you're not paranoid, you're not paying attention.
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ScaledMystic Zen Lizard

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 774 Location: Azeroth
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Ebon, I'm disgusted at Bush's response to this. Add this to the long list of things he's done that disgust me. _________________ Chuck: I don't know anything about you since you were nine.
Ned: Well, it's pretty much I bake pies and wake the dead. I live a very sheltered life. |
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